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**Caution: Some comments may be disturbing to read, but we feel that to sugar-coat these comments would undermine the purpose of this site. Name: Anonymous I was offered the drug a couple of weeks ago and had never heard of it till then. I had taken a hit of X and later in the night took about 4 caps of G. I felt good but later in the night I started to feel weird. My whole body was tingly and I kept having to sit down and get up again. My friend I was with luckily was watching me. He kept me awake the whole time and all I can think now is that I am very lucky. I didn't have the terrible experiences the others had. And just reading their experiences is enough for me to say that I will never do it again.
Name: Dylan Thomas Anyone who thinks that GHB is harmless is only kidding themselves. Two years ago I became interested in GHB for its noted ability to stimulate muscle growth. Before I knew it, I was full addicted and consuming it at least 3 times a day to stay in the clouds. This lasted for 6 months. Within this time I went to the hospital once and was arrested another time for being passed out in my car. Both times they thought I was on PCP or Heroin because I was so incoherent. I passed out numerous other times in clubs, bars, and parties. Luckily the people I was with knew what I was on and took care of me. I introduced GHB to some of my friends and they experience similar results. Another scary feature was the poisoning that went on. The day after a heavy dose I would feel like I drank a bottle of Drano… a hangover times 10. Heavy bouts of depression occurred and the only thing that would keep me sane is another dose. The stimulation of growth hormone caused many changes in my body. My joints ached, my facial features became stronger (enlargement of nose cartilage, ears, jaw line), and the fat on my face diminished which revealed a cadaverous, older looking person. Major nerve damage occurred to the point that I lost feeling in my face and extremities. My face sagged and wrinkled so bad that people started calling me Droopy (after the cartoon dog). I had the face of a 90-year-old. Now that I have been clean my body is going back to normal but I will be scarred for life from the experience. Comments to noghb@hotmail.com
Name: Paula Post My name is Paula, I did not know Kyle, but wanted to thank you for setting up
this web page. I was drugged with GHB and raped on December 18th, ironically, 2
months before the new bill was signed by the president. Everyone needs to be
informed of the serious effects of this drug. I must say that I did know about
it, I had friends who had used it recreationally, and I know that there was no
way I could have prevented this from happening. I was with guys I knew, people I
worked with and trusted. They were bartenders, they wouldn't put anything into
my drink. That is what I thought, and now I have about 6 hours of my life
missing. I don't know exactly what happened, but I do know that I am lucky and
happy to be alive today.
Name: T. Russell I started taking GHB in the August of 1999, and I was immediately hooked. I felt great on it, increased energy, all the good stuff that they say. As time went on, I started mixing with other drugs, and mixing with alcohol. Sadly I went to the hospital twice but still believed that GHB was not the cause, but that it was because I took too much. GHB is the most addictive drug that I have ever seen because you can take it all day, everyday. But as time went on, I noticed certain things like my sex drive wasn't there, my motivation wasn't there, I felt tired and fatigued no matter how long I slept, I couldn't build up my muscles, and all I thought about was taking another dose that hardly even would do anything. GHB is literally garbage. If one stops to really think about what the [heck] they are putting into their bodies, I would rather put any other drug into me than this. GHB is more addictive than any other drug as well. Did you ever stop to think that the reason you can't feel any bad side effects is because GHB is an anesthetic, and even if you were doing damage, you wouldn't feel it but you just want to take that dose, every few hours, thinking oh this stuff is even safer than water. But as more and more time goes on, and with the help of god you are still alive, you take a small dose to bed, wake up three hours later, and you have [peeed] all over yourself and don't know why, nor where the smell came from. But you persist, GHB is a growth hormone releaser, so it has to be good for me, never realizing how much you are f***** with your heart each time you consume more sodium, lowering your potassium levels, and god knows what the precursors screw around with. Drinking the precursors is like drinking a straight chemical. Why not just drink alcohol, you'll feel the same way.
Name: Anonymous My boyfriend is a GHB user - I don't know how to help, I have tried everything, and I can't put up with his behavior anymore. We used to live together, and his GHB use got us kicked out of our apartment. He would Use G in public - and wind up arrested or in the hospital. I would be asleep in our apartment, and would hear him down the street yelling and clapping his hands. The neighbors did not appreciate this. Everyone talks about how G can kill you by taking too much and overdosing - but how about if you are walking down the street on g and get hit by a car because you don't know what you are doing. How about if you are smoking a cigarette, and drop it when you pass out? There are so many bad things that can happen when you loose control over your body. My boyfriend once took G at a party and overdosed, it was dark outside and his friends set him down in a pile of fire ants unknowingly. Since he was so messed up, he wound up getting bit 100 or so times before he rolled himself away from the ants. he had a reaction and almost died. This incident was the 3rd time that he had to be hospitalized from G overdose - and he still does it. Obviously, it must be highly addictive. He has lost all of his friends because of the way he acts, nobody can have a good time with him when they go out because of his tendency to overdose, and now he has lost me as well. He is down to one friend who is also a "g" head. he refuses to go to rehab, and to his credit, he has stopped taking the drug all the time, he has even gone months without it. However, he always " slips" and goes back to it. I can't deal.
I never thought of myself as a major "drug user". Maybe very occasionally I would do Ecstasy. I don't smoke pot and drinking is rather nasty in my book. But someone who'd taken GHB before told me it was great and safe as long as you don't drink. That sounded easy, because I rarely drink at all. So one night we all go to a party, and I don't remember how much I took, but I did get sick, and I passed out for hours. I don't know if I can even call it that, because people watching me said my eyes were open and I was thumping my head repetitively against furniture. I guess that would be blacked out. or something else. I never want to touch it again myself. It may be OK for some, but for me it could've been my last time to try anything ever again. Count me-- Miss No G.
I AM TIRED OF WORKING ON KIDS TRYING GHB FOR FUN. I WORK ON AN AMBULANCE AND HAVE HAD TO PICK UP TOO MANY KIDS AT PARTIES AND "RAVE" PARTIES THAT HAVE TAKEN THIS STUFF. NEXT THING YOU KNOW THEY ARE UNCONSCIOUS AND NOT BREATHING. THEY ACT LIKE STUPID SEIZING ADDICTS WHEN THEY ARE ON THIS STUFF. THEY PUKE ALL OVER THEM SELVES, TUBES SHOVED ALL OVER THEIR BODIES AND ALL AVAILABLE ORIFICES INCLUDING THEIR GENITALS. I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE SPRUNG OUT ON COKE, CRACK, LSD, PCP THAT DON'T ACT THIS STUPID. I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT ANYBODY USE CRACK, BUT THEY SHOULDN'T USE GHB EITHER. THE "HIGH" YOU GET IS NOT WORTH LOOKING LIKE A FOOL WITH PUKE ON THEM AND TUBES COMING OUT OF THEM BECAUSE THEY CANT BREATH ON THEIR OWN. GHB IS NOT SAFE AND TOO MANY KIDS ARE DYING FOR A 10 MINUTE HIGH. IM TIRED OF TELLING KIDS PARENTS THAT THEIR KID MIGHT DIE BECAUSE OF THIS. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS LIKE FUN? I DON'T THINK SO. I DON'T WANT TO PICK UP ANY MORE KIDS IN COMAS FROM USING THIS STUFF!
Name: Lisa Comments: Last night my only brother, my mom and dad's only son, my kids only uncle
died.
Name: Kim First I'd like to send my prayers out to all that have lost a love one or have experienced bad encounters with GHB. I have recently been going to After-hours parties in my town for about three months now and I've never used GHB but I have heard of it in the past. No one has ever told me any really bad effects until I went to a after-party and watched people G-out on GHB and I had no idea what was happening to those people so I asked a friend what was going on and they said "he just drank to much G leave him alone" I could not just leave this person alone He is someone's son, brother, grand-son. I began trying to wake him up thinking I could snap him out of it but It didn't work he just stayed in coma for about 4 hours in the same spot. I stayed with him all night watching him and I thinking about what would have happen if I wasn't there to watch him or if he started vomiting or worse stopped breathing. Then another girl was falling all over the place passing out getting up dancing and falling again. I started to talk to her trying to keep her awake, I followed her around trying to find her friends and when I did I told them to watch her she was doing good they said " it's not my fault she took to much G " They left her there falling all over the place and didn't care. I helped her as much as I could but I'm new at all this. This is just a little thought I think people should realize that your friends don't care if you G-out. They just want you to leave them alone and let them "roll". Please, if you know anyone who is using or is thinking about it encourage them not to. It's a 50-50 chance they'll awake. Thank you to everyone who has shared their stories and God Bless You
Name: Please update more often! my name is Debra I live in NJ. somehow a woman
named Trinka contacted me at my work...I work in one of the biggest
detoxification/rehabilitation centers in N.Philadelphia. initially I assumed she
was making a referral for methadone maintenance, which I specialize in.
unbeknownst to me she had a guy named James from NJ who was in NEED of detox
from this gamma hydroxybutyrate-GHB. I had only HEARD of this- seen it on
DATELINE as "the date rape drug". had no idea the effects, no idea of
the addiction properties, no idea the amount of people this SOLVENT has
destroyed. as you can read for yourself, this solvent is NOT for HUMAN
CONSUMPTION, it is a solvent, to clean, strip floor wax, to develop film. some
quack decided it would be COOL to market it. okay-so you may loose a little
weight, that's because you're so psychotic that you can't eat- plus some people
just throw it up, therefore you loose weight-DUH. yes it probably is a pretty
neat high, no hangovers- but it's only for a little bit, we do not know the
AFTER effects, like... who knew that smoking crack was going to produce crack
addicted babies-who now are in constant need of therapeutic attention-and that's
if they get that. most are abandoned to foster care. no one knows what this G is
going to do to our unborn, unthought of offspring. it has taken 9 days of
medical detox, and James is STILL hallucinating...cool huh? ask jimmy if he
likes it. he states it HURTS physically worse that heroin withdrawal- he did
heroin w/d without medical attention. he could not do it. he said to me upon his
admission into detox, "deb, I thought I'd be drinking this VERVE for the
rest of my life. I'd rather do 2 bundles of dope (24 bags)and kill myself than
to continue this, I'll do anything to get off this [stuff]--I beg of you out
there, stop!
Name: worried My daughter was admitted to a psychiatric hospital this past Sunday...She had work at a gym for several years and was a bodybuilder, trained every day. She has always been a highly motivated person. About 8 months ago, she told me about this GHB. I even tried it with her and could not believe how strong it was. I then started noticing how confused she was getting, not keeping her appointments, having temper outbursts that were not like her, etc. The first time we really knew she had a problem was when she was 2 hours late for her OWN birthday party. She came in saying "I've been lost all day" and really WAS lost. She was taking this drug several times a day and it was a very strong batch. On Christmas eve, she went off the deep end ~ we tried to get her to get help, but she would not go so we had her picked up and taken to the hospital; they let her go....They would not keep her. Last weekend I got a phone call from a sheriff's dept over 100 miles away - They had found her way out in the country at some unknown person's residence going through their jeep. She really thought that she was in another state and was at her father's house and he had given her this jeep. They took her to the hospital. She swears up and down she is not doing this drug any more. Ever since this has happened she has been disoriented and she has not slept since last Thursday. If you saw her now, you would think she was looney tunes...If you knew her before this happened, she would have been the last person you would have thought this would happen to. This is a VERY, VERY dangerous mind altering drug. At this point, we don't know if she will EVER be the same again. None of the hospitals she went to had ever heard of GHB. Ms. Porrata was kind enough to get in touch w/the psychiatric hospital where she is and inform them of this drug. If anyone has had a similar experience or has any advice, please write me. My prayers go out to all of you who are dealing with this problem and have lost loved ones....
Name: Anonymous GHB IS A WAIST OF TIME. I SPENT 10 DAYS IN THE HOSPITAL. 1.5 OF THOSE DAYS IN A COMA, 3 IN A HOSPITAL BED AND 5.5 DAYS IN THE PSYCH CENTER AND MY LIFE IS STILL [expletive]. JUST FOR A GOOD, CHEAP HIGH O.D.
Name: Kathleen Wellman My boyfriend/best friend seems to be addicted. He is having a hard time admitting to it. But, his recent actions have told me otherwise. When he's sober he talks like he knows that he has a problem and does NOT want to be addicted to anything, but when he isn't around me he goes back to G or something like it that he claims to be getting from GNC, "verve" I've never heard of it. I don't know how to help him. Can I????
Name: Anonymous This drug is a total Nightmare...and I do believe many young people, even teens, are being controlled with it also.
Name: Unknown One night a friend of mine was DJing a house party. He had been drinking a couple of beers and got thirsty, so he picked up a water bottle that was sitting next to him and took a few gulps of 'water'. Well, he could tell right away that something was wrong with it because he said it tasted funny. About 10-15 minutes later he had passed out, so some people carried him into the bathroom where he started to have convulsions. They called the paramedics and he was taken to the ER where he woke up strapped down to a bed with tubes stuck in him. When he woke up the doctor told him that he was one of the lucky ones that actually survived. The hospital has been getting a lot of people who are ODing on the drug GHB. That is some scary stuff.
Name: anon I would like to express heartfelt understanding to all who have lost people through this drug & to everyone who has 'experienced' the worst of it, & those who have unwittingly been drugged/poisoned/OD'd, it is hard to comprehend the reasoning why people do this to others. Last month I went up to Sunset (like Kimberley from the Dec 99 message?) to check out a band, little did I know that I would be found unconscious, slumped over a table in a different venue. I was with friends & the last thing I remember was being at the gig. Before going out we had a couple drinks but nothing else, during the gig I ordered a vodka & cranberry juice. I was watching the band play & then the rest of the evening has been told to me. I DON"T REMEMBER ANYTHING ELSE!! I was found face down, unconscious over a table. A guy was sitting there & apparently looked as if business was usual. When my friends tried to move me, I started vomiting & blood was coming out of my nose. I was extremely pliable, a deadweight & totally relaxed. My eyes were rolling. The guy at the table said "Call an ambulance", the owner came out & said "Call an ambulance, get her out of here." I was held by my stomach as my face & feet were touching the floor, I carried on vomiting while a friend got his vehicle. I was carried to the truck by 3 guys & kept slipping through their fingers due to complete muscle relaxation & then put inside & carried on puking during the ride, & at home in the bathroom where apparently there was a weird smell, like Drain-o or some other cleaner! I woke up the next day, as I looked in the bathroom mirror I noticed specks of dried blood on my face, it was also on my pillow, jacket, clothes, sheet. I then found out what had happened. I was so freaked out, disorientated, & I felt very alone and angry. I was very glad to find this site, it helped me put my ordeal into
perspective & I realized I wasn't the only person affected. I remember this
drug from years ago & never wanted to touch it, I can't believe it was put
into my drink & that I didn't notice. I can't turn the clock back but I hope
people STAY AWAY from this horrible drug. I have been warning all my friends
& wanted to keep you all updated cause this is still going on....the world
is still full of creeps & we (especially women) should be continually
vigilant. Take Care!!
Name: Megan Recently, my friend and I went to a dance club out of town. We ran into these two guys (Dan and Chris). Dan was very attracted to my friend. They invited us over to Dan's house to "hang out" - for some reason, we agreed. When we got there, Dan brought out a plastic jug filled with what I assumed to be water. There was a reservoir in it and he squeezed the bottom of the bottle to bring some of the liquid up into the reservoir. He then drank it. "What is that?" I asked him. "It's called GHB. It's kind of like Ecstasy. Want to try?" My friend and I refused. He offered it to Chris, who took a big swig of it. After that, Dan and my friend went off in another room to talk. Dan left me on the couch with Chris, telling me to "watch him". So I did. Chris was sighing as if he was having problems getting air, and leaned his head back to rest. In a few minutes, his head began bobbing forward and his arms were jerking involuntarily. I pushed him back against the couch and told him to lay still. He was still breathing heavily. Soon he stopped responding to me shaking him, calling his name, even slapping his face. He was barely breathing and his heart rate was very low. I went back to the room where Dan and my friend were talking, and said, "Chris isn't responding to anything. Is there anything wrong with him?" He assured me that it was normal and that he would be "awake" in 5 or 10 minutes. So I went back to the living room. Chris was slumped over on the couch. I sat there and tried everything I could to wake him up, but he didn't do anything. By then, my friend was back in the room with me, and she leaned over him and yelled in his face, slapping it with her hands. He finally woke up. I helped him to his feet and he fell against me. He mumbled something and fell down, crawling towards the bathroom. I looked at Dan. "Is he going to be okay?" "Yeah, this is his first time doing it. He'll be fine once he throws up." I haven't seen either one of those guys since that night, and I wish I would have gone with my gut instinct and called 911. I know Chris is still alive, but maybe calling the paramedics would have made him think twice about doing it again.
Name: Christine Thank you for this web site. My friend Jimmy was taking GHB as a dietary supplement. He is a recovering alcoholic and has been sober for 6 years now. A couple of weeks ago he tried to stop taking GHB and became violently ill and was hallucinating (visual & auditory). He got on line and found your web page, which put him in touch with Kim Blank and Trinka. He is now in detox at St. Joseph's Hospital in Philadelphia. The doctors are "shooting" him with Phenobarbital once an hour to help him get through the withdraw and hallucinations. He didn't know he was addicted until he tried to stop. I'm thankful that your web page was there to put him in touch with people who found a way to help him. He's like my brother and we (my family and I) are not ready to lose him. We watched him work so hard to recover from alcohol, we don't want to see him lose to a drug like this. Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. Please pray for him....He is only in day two of his detox. He has 12 more to go.
Name: Debra George I received a phone call Friday 2/4/2000 from a woman looking for detox for a
young man addicted to GHB, I had only heard stories. today we finally admitted
him to medical detox- god only knows what can happen. I am horrified at the
stories these young people have of their ordeal with this SOLVENT-NOT MEANT FOR
HUMAN CONSUMPTION, is what I read on the bottle of VERVE. James is 26,with
gorgeous eyes that ripped my heart out as he headed out of my office and into
the elevator towards sjh dtx, he was frightened and made it clear to me that he
wanted off "this stuff" today 2/5/00. he had been using it to loose
weight, beef up and feel Trinka, Kim, and Christine are to thank if he makes it through this, I hope
to god our hospital can help him. this is scary stuff-
Name: College Hey All! I'll be the first one to admit.. I've done my share of experimenting with different types of substances. Nothing, Absolutely nothing can make you feel as [cruddy] as this stuff. If I would have known some of the stories, (and cases) that I saw on this site tonight there is NO WAY I would have ever touched this stuff. I'm telling you everything you read here is TRUE! While reading story after story I was just amazed at the similarities I've seen (and felt) from one experience.
Name: Alicia My friend and I where given GHB in a drink and we were set up to be raped but
we went to get some air and lost the those who drugged us. We didn't call the
police, we just went home to sleep. I was hyper and then had seizures, she
passed out and became unarousable. She felt better the next day whereas I was
sick. We both feel weird long term effects that we can't medically tie to the
GHB but they are things that didn't start to effect us until just after. (head
pain, dizzy spells, breathing problems) Alicia Salt Lake City Utah
Name: Anonymous I was out at a party and a friend of a friend came up to me and asked me if I was on x (ecstasy) and I said yeah he said he had something that would help my high it was called liquid G. It was a clear liquid. I took two shots of this stuff and about twenty minutes later I started feeling light headed and started feeling very sleepy. I kept coming in and out, my guy friend asked me if I took that clear stuff they were doing in the corner and I told him yes, he then told me that it was a date rape drug. I struggled very hard to stay awake, my body was dropping to the floor, meanwhile the guy who gave me the stuff, was making out with me, and everyone was just in their own little world. Finally one of my guy friends came to my rescue. I really don't remember anything else, just feeling very tired and couldn't walk I didn't know where or what was going on. I feel very violated about the whole incident. I feel like it was all my fault. I am really concerned though about the side effects that this drug could have on me.
Name: Kat *Names changed. I personally have never done GHB. In fact, up until my first encounter with it, I'd never even heard of it. At my nineteenth birthday party last year, there were about 200 people (it was in Philadelphia and a somewhat club-like event). Of course, almost every drug under the sun was there. I personally did ecstasy and LSD. Sometime during the night, I remember a young girl being carried upstairs, unconscious. I felt for her, but I was having a good time and I was also on E, and I figured she'd just had too much to drink - nothing uncommon at parties, nothing to be *too* concerned about, it seemed that the person carrying her had the situation under control. Later, my boyfriend Alex and I heard snippets of conversations regarding a "designer drug called G", as they called it, that was going around the party. I thought absolutely nothing of it - I certainly wasn't interested in trying something new at a big party, especially with drugs already in my system. The one thought that did occur to me was about one of my close friends who came to the party. Jen was very impulsive and daring, and I knew that if someone offered her something, no matter how foreign it was, she would try it. I also had no idea what else she'd ingested that evening. But, I wasn't too concerned - as of yet, it didn't seem to be anything to worry about. Some people were even saying it was completely fake, and people were just trying to make money. However, a while later, my boyfriend and my friend and I happened to end up in the same room (it was a big house and we didn't see each other much with all the people around). Suddenly, Jen passed out. I felt one of those nervous swirls go through me, knowing there was a chance she'd taken some G or something else, but I didn't get too upset - she got sick and passed out a lot, and was never harmed, and I was on E and unable to get very nervous. They took her upstairs, and at least for the moment, I forgot about the situation. Some time later, I heard Jen SCREAMING upstairs, sort of moaning. (Now, remember this house was HUGE, filled with people with music blaring - she must have been LOUD.) Someone came up to me and said that they knew I was her friend and asked me to come upstairs and stay with her. So Alex, myself, and our friend Missy went upstairs. The room Jen was in had about six other people in it. Some were awake and obviously sick, some unconscious. Jen was unconscious and moaning in her sleep, and drooling. People were twitching. I immediately got very scared. No one knew any details about G, so no one knew if people were going to die or what. Also, we weren't entirely sure just how much people had taken, or what they had mixed it with, etc. Missy was scared because she had taken some, too. (She ended up okay.) Everyone was unconscious, vomiting, etc. until around ten am the next morning. I spent a long time with the first girl who'd been taken upstairs unconscious. See, the people selling it had explained NOTHING about it - like that it's dose sensitive, can't be mixed with alcohol, etc. The first girl taken upstairs weighed only 85 pounds and obviously, got sicker than everyone else. Thankfully no one died that night, although I'm sure some of the people there did come close. Some people were totally fine, and enjoyed themselves (I'm sure this is due to body weight and not having anything else in their systems). The point is this. I won't discredit people for using drugs recreationally, because I do, but they're ALL unsafe. GHB is even MORE unsafe, because unlike say acid or ecstasy, it is VERY VERY sensitive to dosing. Also unlikely ecstasy, it can be easily slipped to you when you don't know it. You have NO idea how pure or strong what you're taking is. I DO NOT ADVOCATE OR CONDONE GHB USE IN ANY WAY. I have seen a lot of things happen to people because of drugs, but BY FAR, this is the worst I've ever seen. It puts you in a positively disgusting, out of control state, and these people are [DARN] lucky they lived. One example of why there is no "safe" method of using GHB is that a few months ago, three friends of mine took exactly the same amount. One got very ill, one got "messed up" and enjoyed himself, and one felt no effects whatsoever - three people of varied weights. There is just no means whatsoever of doing this drug safely. No drug is safe, but some are worse than others, and G is one of the worst. This site is incredibly informative and touching - there is nothing like seeing real peoples' testimonials to inform and educate other people about a subject such as this one. |
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