**Caution: Some comments may be
disturbing to read, but we feel that to sugar-coat these comments would
undermine the purpose of this site.
Selected Comment:
Monday, October 18, 2004
State: MI
Dear Readers,
This is more a warning then anything. I went to a bar for a friend's
birthday. I have never left a drink by itself, but for some reason I did and
didn't think about it. Now I don't even remember anything but the 1st, 1/2
to 1 hour of the night. I just know what my friend's told me. I have a 3
year old and I almost died for leaving drinks and then drinking them. I went
to the hospital the next day. It ended up being a very high dose of ghb that
was in my drinks. I had no memory, I couldn't think or barely talk and keep
thoughts in my head, I had a headache and threw up.
Luckily I have good friend's and no sexual assault occured. They thought I
had a stroke. So I did tests and was in and out of the hospital for day's.
Now 2 weeks later, I'm not 100% but I'm getting there. I was told if I had
waited to go, I would be dead. And that would mean I would never see my son
again. I would never see my fiance or any of my family and friend's. So
please let this be a word of warning, I never thought it could happen to me,
but it did. And it could happen to you. And thanks to my family and friend's
I'm alive and I'm grateful. Thank You.
J.
Sunday, August 15, 2004
comments: Just to let you know that I have added a link to your site from
http://www.alchemyproject.net/Links/us_information_&_prevention.htm
Regards
J. C.
Saturday, May 1, 2004
State: NY
comments: It is my opinion and my opinion only that most of the money spent on
busting drug dealers especially at the street level is a monumental waste of
money, time, effort and lives (especially the lives of those in law
enforcement taken by drug dealers and usersduring arrests/raids.) I believe
that the most effective use of funds, time and effort is the education of
the nations youth and of the nations parents. Teach the parents how to talk
to their childeren and how to detect drug use and abuse and teach the
childeren about the consequences of drug use and abuse. When teaching them
be honest. Drugs can be fun and enlightening as well as deadly. If you lie
to people and tell them that there is no fun to be had in drug use they will
automatically ignore what you have to say about the harm they can cause.
Childeren as well as adults often do drugs to feel accepted. We must teach
the "popular/in crowd"; about the harm they can do when the shun the "not so
popular." If the population can be taught to accept one another
unconditionally then those seeking acceptance through drug use will stop
seeking accpetance through drug use. We as a society must become aware of
the repercussions our actions can have. Teaching and practicing
unconditional acceptance and love for self and others is the only way(in my
opinion)that we can make a positive, significant change in the drug
use/abuse problem that plagues present day society. This may be a utopian
view of the situation, but it is, I believe, the only way to effect a
widespread, long lasting positive change. Remember, that which we are
seeking, causes us to seek. If people are given the unconditional love and
acceptance they are seeking through drug use they will no longer seek drugs.
B. B.
Thursday, April 8, 2004
State: TX
comments: This was the first time I have found a site that really tells you
the truth. i didnt see much "sugar coating," and i think that's what kids
need. I'm 23 years old and i have done some things i wish I hadnt, if i had
known what those seemingly "small" choices would cost me in the future; I am
99% sure i would have chosen the alternate. I see my friends doing things
that are going to ruin their life, families, and future and I have no way to
stop it. some of them ask me about things like GHB, or special k, or things
like that; which i've never done and I come to the internet and find
everything i can about it and educate myself so i can tell them why they
should say no. The biggest problem is that they are not going to listen to
you, so if saying no isnt going to be their path, i make sure they know what
it is that they are putting into their bodies and what will happen, what can
happen, what not to do, and make sure that they know the signs of "a party
gone wrong" It worries me, but sites like this make it a little easier to
help educate them as well as myself, and I just wanted to let you know that
someone out here appreciates what you are doing and i thank you for it.
B.
Tuesday, April 27, 2004
State: LA
comments: Brandon: New Orleans, LA It's been over 4 years now since I've left
drug/alcohol rehab, GHB was my D.O.C. (drug of choice). While I can't say
I've lived a sober life since then, I can say I've never relapsed into the
state I once was in when abusing, nah...better to use the word LIVING off of
GHB or one of its "safe"; precursors, derivatives, substitutes, whatever one
might call it. No exaggerations included, I was averaging 18 - 20 ounces a
day to maintain and to achieve a high. We're talking dosing every 2-3 hours
A DAY (12-15 doses a day) just to function. Whether it was actual GHB we
used to import from overseas in the early 90's or the precursor chemicals
GBL (in the forms of Invigorate, Blue Nitro, etc, etc) I was dosing. While
it started out as a dose here and there with friends, possessing the
addictive personality I do, quickly I gathered my own stock, spending hard
earned work money on 32oz bottle after bottle (usually buying by the case -
12 bottles at 32oz/each). Didn't take long for me to start dosing to wake,
to sleep, to get buzzed, etc...While actual doses increased slightly, the
frequency and rate at which exponentially acclerated. 18 - 20ounces a day.
Pass out in public, nah, I never did; which is why I guess I never noticed
the problem UNTIL... I RAN OUT. The F.D.A. or whoever finally got it right
and outlawed not just product name, not just GHB, but any/all precursors or
related chemicals which can conceivably become or
mimick the drug. SHAKES, FLUSHED/PIN PRICKED SKIN, INSOMNIA (even with
sleeping aids such as valium or Tylenol PM--just made it much worse), SOME
NAUSEA, WORSE SHAKES, HALLUCINATIONS (lack of sleep up to 3 days straight,
no speed or caffeine), even up to sometimes experiencing irregular
heartbeat. Simply put, I could not function without G or any of its'
related cousins. Detox was just about impossible. So, another method of
securing the drug, an illegal/riskier method was undertaken. Eventually,
you either die or you go to jail. Lucky for me, I had a close friend who
finally gave in and did what so few dare to do: inform my parents and family
what was going on. I owe her my life. Our capital cities two major hospitals
(we're talking prestigious, nationally recognized hospitals) had no clue
what to do or what was going on, moreless what GHB or an analog was.
A few sleep aids, which did not work and sent on my way, sometimes leaving
the E.R. shaking, flushed, stumbling, but trying to conceal it so I could go
home. Finally, my parents saw what was going on, and basically committed me
to a detox facility (not medical). Somehow, God-willing, I made it through.
How, I'll never know. Insomnia, high blood pressure, lack of hunger, random
naseua, constipation, flushed skin, dizzy, etc. I hid, sometimes not to
well, a lot of these symptoms. I'm a very "mind over matter" type of person,
but I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND NON MEDICALLY ASSISTED GHB DETOX TO ANYONE. If
you're doing a good bit of G just to wake up, go to sleep, etc, SEEK
DOCTOR'S HELP for detox. Yeah, it costs a pretty penny, but you're life is
what you're risking! Help is out there; check out your state/parish/county's
charity system, etc... Thanks to my best friend and the unconditional love
of my family, I made it through. YOU CAN, TOO!!!
B.
Tuesday, April 20, 2004
Hi, I found your site while I was looking for information on the effects of
ghb. Me and my girlfriend think we were spiked with it at a bar last
weekend. Two guys and a girl were sat opposite me and Laura and eventually
we struck up a conversation and they came over to chat. I'm pretty sure that
at some point one of the guys switched my beer for his.
Luckily a couple of my friends then came over to join us after coming in to
town late to have a few late afternoon pints. At this point the girl of
their group looked really uncomfortable and made the two guys leave with
her. As they left one of the guys gave Laura a full pint that we hadn't seen
him touch. So by this stage I had had a full potentially spiked pint and
Laura had just had one sip of the pint left for her. But within 5 minutes
(and after throwing most of 'spiked pint number two' away) we both felt
completely off the planet. Our breathing was really alarmingly slow, we felt
euphoric, completely lacking in inhibition, but strangely agitated at the
same time. Our memory was also pretty lousy. As an example of this I said I
was going to get some comfy seats in the upstairs lounge later on. I asked
Laura to follow me up when she had finished her drink. 15 minutes later I
had forgotten to check where she was and she had forgotten to join me. A few
hours later we were starting to feel 'normal' again and then spent most of
Saturday night at home throwing up. By Monday night whatever it was was
completely out of our systems. I'm a student psychiatric nurse so I knew a
bit about the effects of ghb and the fact that it can't be easily detected
in current standard drugs tests. But this site has been a great help in
reassuring us that it probably was ghb we were spiked with and in our case
we were just very lucky to have invited other friends to come and join us.
If those two hadn't have turned up things could have got a lot worse!
P. M. UK
Thursday, April 15, 2004
State: IL
I have read the passages on this website over and over again. It's sometimes
easier to know I am not the only one out there that is suffering an
everlasting feeling of loss and guilt. As I was browsing again tonight I had
noticed that my boyfriend who died of GHB was now listed on the death page.
Tears came rushing down. I new how he died but to see it displayed was
reality all over agian. I have so many feelings over his death. It has been
3 years now an still it is so strong in my mind like it was yesterday. I've
never wished I could change something so bad. If only I new, I should have
stayed the night I could have saved him. I could have kept him alive if only
I had new. I will never let go of the guilt I hold for going home. I want to
help others to stay away from this killer drug and to be aware. I want to
share my experiences and loss. This is a great website on educating people
and scaring them away from GHB. I don't want to mention his name in respect
for his family and just want him and everyone to know I will always be
thinking of him. I will alway's love him. And I will always remember the
word's he told me the night he died "I love you" for the first time.
L.
Monday, March 22, 2004
London, United Kingdom
What an important site this is! I am a 36 year old male living in London,
England who is off G for 28 days now after having taking it for two years. I
am in the Narcotics Anonymous program and am finding it a life saver. I went
on a G binge taking it daily for the last four months of my using. My
dosages were maybe three or four per day and it was of GBL.
Fortunately I did not have any of the physical withdrawl symptoms that you
mention in your stories. I did suffer from depression and am still finding
it difficult to get back on my feet. I do feel that I am making progess.
This drug is everywhere in this city, especially among the gay community. I
felt like I was the only one with this problem and am so thankful that your
site exists so that others can know they are not alone. I have come to
realize through this experience that I am an addict and must abstain from
all drugs if I am to remain clean and with God's help that is what I will
do. Thank you again for your site and continued success.
E. V.
Friday, March 26, 2004
State: CA
Thank you for trying to make others aware of this dangerouse and sneaky
drug . I was raped on G.H.B. By a so-called friend I did'nt know you can die
from it . He could have killed me . He was'nt caught either .
Hopefully someday soon he will get what he deserves . Lots and Lot of jail
time . Not only did he drug me with G.H.B but ketamine , crystal meth and
some other things all at ont time. I was so sick after I came to I thought I
was goung to die . I was only 14 now im 20.
Sincerely M. G. from San Diego.
Tuesday, March 9, 2004
State: CA
I first encountered GHB as a fitness buff working out at a local gym in
1997. I had been using anabolic steroids for a time and the testosterone had
a "stimulant" effect causing sleeping difficulties. A friend at the gym told
me about a liquid called GHB that was supposedly "non-addictive" and helped
induce deeper rem sleep and increased muscle growth. It sounded too good to
be true but I decided to try it right away.
I did feel better rested at first and took it as a sleep aid for several
months without difficulty. At some point I realized that you could achieve a
"high" by taking a little more and began using the drug recreationally. As
it was easy to conceal and extremely effective, I began using GHB on a
several time a week basis as well as using it at bedtime as a sleep aid. By
the end of an approximately 12 month period, I was abusing GHB on a regular
basis and needing to take it about every 2 1/2 hours on a 24 hour per day
basis (I would wake up every 2.5 hours shaking with my heart pounding). The
withdrawls at this point were very severe including shaking, and extreme
anxiety. As my judgement was impaired whenever I was using GHB, I began
using and abusing a whole list of drugs including cocaine, marijuana, xanax,
vicodin, and ecstacy (many times a coctail of three or more at the same
time) In the following year, I was involved in two serious auto accidents
(both as a result of passing out from GHB overdose), and I overdosed myself
unconscience more times than i can recall (approximately 30 to 40 times) I
was carried out of restaurants, bars, and nightclubs on numerous occasions
in GHB induced comas (not an easy feat with a 270 pound man). I made GHB
influenced decisions that could and should have cost me my career, family,
friends and my very life, all while knowing I had a problem but unable to
stop. At this point I was using GHB against my will - I wanted desperately
to stop but could not. In April 2000, I was finally able to stop using GHB
with the assitance of a 12 step program (there were no detox centers or
rehabs that I could find at the time that had any information whatsoever on
GHB addiction) I have been successful at nearly everything I've attempted in
my life and have always been known for my "willpower". If you are currently
addicted to GHB and are searching for an easy way out - forget about it -
you need help and I sincerely hope you reach out and ask for it before you
kill yourself or someone else. If you are curious about GHB - DONT BE STUPID
AND SCREW AROUND WITH SOMETHING THAT WILL FLAT OUT KICK YOUR ASS! THE SMALL
AMOUNT OF PLEASURE YOU MAY DERIVE (IF YOU DONT KILL YOURSELF) IS NOT WORTH
THE PAIN YOU WILL EVENTUALLY ENDURE - AND I PROMISE YOU THAT YOU WILL ENDURE
PAIN IF YOU USE GHB ON A REGUALAR BASIS BECAUSE AT SOME POINT YOU WILL HAVE
TO STOP OR YOU WILL DIE OR WORSE YET, KILL SOMEONE ELSE.
As I sit here and read the stories on this website, I realize how lucky I am
that I am not dead because I abused GHB a great deal more than all of the
people listed on the "GHB Tragedy" page. I implore you to please avoid this
drug (as well as all drugs) and please discourage anyone you know from using
it as well - it just isn't worth it.
g.p. nelsen
Friday, February 6, 2004
State: CA
Drugs are soooo awful! In my opinion! I am the one that took special K! It got
me brain injured and I would advise to please stay away from drugs.Who knows
what will happen to you- die, become brain injured, have a stroke, or be
paralyzed for your WHOLE life! You know drugs are supposed to put people out
in hospitals. For those patients, NOT you! Come on people, is it that hard
to just think? DRUGS CAN and WILL Ruin your life. Just think of the people
that passed away! Do you guys and girls want that to happen to you? PLEASE
people, believe me, PLEASE! Do you want to be like them (the people that
passed away)OR just a NORMAL person? Come on
people, use your brain! P.S. The people that passed away and their
parents and siblings,I am so sorry that that happened to them so young!P.S.S
Also, may the lord bless your souls! I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sorry that
happened to happen to your dear children.
E. R.
January 18, 2004
State: TX
My name is Mike and Mike Scarcella was a very good fried. I to was an addict
and it took me over 6 months to fully recover. But I did thanks to Mike. p.s
this is a great website thanks for all the hard work.
Saturday, January 10, 2004
State: FL
I work in a ER, I have read these stories, I am very sorry to hear them.
I dealt with a GHB patient that ended up going home with his parents that
night. I dont bond with patients usually, but that night I felt the need to
plant a seed of hope. I may never see that person again, but that
night was another day for them.
-unknown
Wednesday, August 4, 2004
Australia
I think this is the site that will help me with my daughters assignment that
I have had trouble finding the information at sites that I thought would be
easy. This one proved to be a sinch.
-- K.
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